Podcast Host:
Lisa Hendrickson-Jack is a certified fertility awareness educator and holistic reproductive health practitioner with over 20 years of experience teaching fertility awareness and menstrual cycle literacy. She is the author (and co-author) of two widely referenced resources in the field of fertility awareness and menstrual health, The Fifth Vital Sign (free chapter!) and Real Food for Fertility (free chapter!), and the host of the long-running Fertility Friday Podcast. Lisa’s main focus is her Fertility Awareness Mastery Mentorship (FAMM) Certification—an evidence-based fertility awareness certification program for women’s health professionals.
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Today’s Guest
Serrita is a Fertility Friday client who joins Lisa for an on-air session to share her fertility journey. In this episode, she discusses her experiences with birth control, transitioning to fertility awareness, and navigating the challenges of trying to conceive.
Episode Summary: Understanding Progesterone and Charting for Conception
In this on-air client session, Lisa works with Serrita to explore how fertility awareness can support the journey to conception. They discuss Serrita’s birth control history, the challenges she faced transitioning off hormonal contraceptives, and how charting helped her better understand her cycles. Lisa highlights key strategies for identifying ovulation patterns, optimizing the luteal phase, and supporting healthy progesterone levels. This episode offers a practical look at how cycle charting can provide valuable insights for those trying to conceive.
Listener Takeaways for Supporting Menstrual Cycle Health in Active Women
- Menstrual cycle changes can be an early signal that stress, training demands, and recovery aren’t in balance.
- Charting cycle biomarkers can make subtle patterns visible before they become bigger problems.
- High training demands combined with under-fueling may affect cycle signs even when you feel “fine.”
- Reducing overall stress load can be reflected in the cycle over time—especially when you track consistently.
- For practitioners, repeated real-world chart review is one of the fastest ways to build interpretation confidence.
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Full Episode Transcript – Episode 492: Progesterone: What Does It Do?
Lisa:
Welcome back to the Fertility Friday Podcast. Today, I’m sharing my interview with Serrita, one of the members of my Fertility Awareness Mastery Live group coaching program. We dive into how the Fertility Awareness Method can be used both for conception and as a tool to assess hormone health—specifically, progesterone levels.
Serrita:
Thank you. I’m so excited to be here. I’ve been a fan for years, so this is a big moment for me!
Lisa:
I love these episodes. My heart is with supporting women to understand their bodies, and cycle charting gives us so many choices. Let’s jump in. How old were you when you had your first period?
Serrita:
I was about 12. I was actually hoping it would come because all my friends had started theirs. It was pretty smooth—not painful early on. Just learning how to manage it at school.
Lisa:
Were you on hormonal contraceptives?
Serrita:
Not until my mid-20s. My dermatologist suggested birth control for my acne. I tried Ortho Tri-Cyclen for a couple of months, but I didn’t see much improvement and started experiencing body changes—like breast tenderness and weight gain. I eventually stopped taking it.
Later, I started again during a relationship and switched to a low-dose version. After that relationship ended, I’d stop taking it. I was never on it consistently—just when I felt I needed it.
Lisa:
That’s a pretty common pattern. Did your cycles return normally each time?
Serrita:
Yes, they came back right away. I never had delays in getting my period again.
Lisa:
Tell us more about your journey to fertility awareness.
Serrita:
I got married in my late 30s. We had a miscarriage early on, and then after marriage, we conceived quickly—but it ended in a stillbirth due to an incompetent cervix. After that, I had a transvaginal cerclage placed. We tried naturally for a while, but when nothing happened, I explored IVF and had my daughter that way.
After birth, my doctor suggested birth control at my six-week check-up. But I was still nursing and didn’t want to go back on hormones. So we used withdrawal.
Later, we tried a frozen embryo transfer, which sadly ended in miscarriage. That’s when I decided to join your class to learn more about ovulation and improve my chances naturally. I had no idea when I ovulated—even with ovulation kits.
Lisa:
Thank you for sharing. You’ve been through so much. When did your cycle return after birth?
Serrita:
Nine weeks postpartum. I was surprised—it came back early even though I was breastfeeding.
Lisa:
Yes, the return of cycles varies a lot with breastfeeding. Let’s move into charting. What would you like to focus on today?
Serrita:
I want help interpreting my recent chart. I’ve been seeing cervical mucus again after stopping antihistamines.
Lisa:
Right, we talked about how antihistamines can dry up mucus. Now that you’re seeing clear, stretchy fluid again, that’s a great sign.
From your chart, your peak day looks like cycle day 9. Your temps confirm ovulation likely happened around then. That’s earlier than average, but not uncommon in your early 40s. Were you surprised?
Serrita:
Not really—I’ve noticed I get a little more frisky and my body temperature shifts earlier in my cycle.
Lisa:
Libido can be a helpful secondary sign! Are you tracking intimacy on your chart?
Serrita:
I am, but I haven’t had any this cycle.
Lisa:
Okay. You also mentioned seeing creamy mucus post-ovulation. Let’s talk about that.
Serrita:
Yes, I’ve had some lotion-like mucus after ovulation. I wasn’t sure how to categorize it.
Lisa:
That’s likely non-peak mucus. If it’s cloudy and doesn’t stretch, mark it accordingly. And note any underwear-only observations separately—they can be useful but aren’t counted in wiping-method data.
Let’s shift to progesterone. You mentioned this is an area you really care about.
Serrita:
Yes. During pregnancy, I had weekly progesterone shots due to my previous loss. Now I want to support my luteal phase naturally.
Lisa:
Your previous chart showed a 12-day luteal phase, which is a good sign of healthy progesterone. You’ve also been working on foundational habits—exercise, protein intake, and better sleep.
Tell me about your sleep.
Serrita:
I go to bed around 10:30 and wake up at 6. But I usually wake up once to pee, so I’d rate my sleep a 6/10.
Lisa:
Consider cutting off water earlier in the evening. Maybe hydrate more in the morning—try two glasses right when you wake up.
Serrita:
I can definitely try that.
Lisa:
Are you sleeping in complete darkness?
Serrita:
Yes—room is totally dark.
Lisa:
Great. You’re also incorporating more protein—how’s that going?
Serrita:
It’s going well. I add collagen to yogurt, have a protein shake, and snack on sardines and eggs. I’m trying to reach for protein instead of cookies!
Lisa:
That’s excellent. Protein helps stabilize blood sugar and supports hormone production. For supplements, we’ve talked about vitamin D. Are you taking magnesium?
Serrita:
I have some—glycinate and topical spray—but haven’t been taking it yet.
Lisa:
Magnesium, vitamin C, and B6 all support progesterone. But supplements work best after foundational habits are in place. Based on your chart, I think you’re ready to try them and observe any shifts in your luteal phase.
Before we wrap up—what would you tell someone considering fertility awareness for conception?
Serrita:
Do your research. This method gives you so much insight—beyond just timing. You get real data to support your health. It’s empowering.
Lisa:
And what would you say to someone nervous about joining a group coaching class?
Serrita:
It’s awesome. You’re not alone. The shared experience with women from different backgrounds is powerful. I’ve learned so much from the group.
Lisa:
Thank you, Serrita. This has been a pleasure. I’ll see you in class soon!
Peer-Reviewed Research & Resources Mentioned
- The Fifth Vital Sign (free chapter!)
- Real Food for Fertility (free chapter!)
- Fertility Awareness Mastery Mentorship (FAMM)
- How to Interpret Virtually Any Chart — For Practitioners! (complimentary eBook)
- Fertility Awareness Mastery Charting Workbook
- Fertility Awareness Mastery Online Self-Study Program




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